• Tech
    • Tech Category
      • Engine
      • Bottom End
      • Rods and Pistons
      • Head and Headwork
      • Cams and Valvetrain
      • Cooling and Heat Management
      • Intake
      • Headers and Exhaust
      • Rotary
      • Engine Management and Tuning
      • Drivetrain
      • Transmission
      • Clutch and Flywheel
      • Differential and Final Drive
      • Driveshaft and Axle
      • Axles
    • Tech Category
      • Suspension
      • Shocks and Coilovers
      • Springs
      • Swaybars
      • Arms and Links
      • Bushings
      • Steering
      • Geometry Correction
      • Suspension Setup and Tuning
      • Brakes
      • Wheels and Tires
      • Fueling
      • Forced Induction and NOS
      • Aerodynamics
    • Tech Cat
      • Electrical
      • Battery and Power Distribution
      • Electronics
      • Wiring
      • Electrical System Education and Troubleshooting
      • Lubrication
      • Interior and Controls
      • Exterior
      • Paint and Bodywork
      • Wraps and Film Protection
      • Exterior Care and Maintenance
      • Data Acquisition and Tuning
      • Fabrication and Safety
      • Tips and How-To
  • Projects
    • Make A-D
      • Acura
      • Integra (DC2)
      • NSX
      • CSF RSX (DC5)
      • BMW
      • E30 (SR20 Powered)
      • E36 323is
      • E36 M3 (Black)
      • E36 M3 (Silver)
      • E39 M5
      • E46 M3
      • E90 M3
      • E46 Racecar
      • Yost Auto E92 M3
      • Yost Auto F82 M4
      • Chevrolet
      • Camaro Gen5
      • Corvette Stingray (C7 Z51)
      • Corvette Stingray (C8 Z51)
      • GMC Canyon
      • Dodge
      • Viper GTS
    • Make E-I
      • Ford
      • E350 Tow Rig
      • F150 EcoBoost
      • Fiesta ST
      • Focus ST
      • Mustang 5.0 (Grey)
      • Mustang 5.0 (White)
      • Mustang S197 (Budget Track Car)
      • Mustang S550 GT
      • Honda
      • Civic EF Racecar
      • Civic Si (Coupe)
      • Civic Si (EP3)
      • Civic Si (Saloon)
      • EJ Civic
      • Polystrand CRX
      • S2000 (AP1)
      • S2000 (AP2)
      • Infiniti
      • G20 Racecar
      • G20 (P10 AWD Turbo)
      • G35
      • G37S
    • Make J-M
      • Isuzu
      • Vehicross
      • Lexus
      • ISF
      • SC300
      • Mazda
      • V8 RX7 (3rd Gen)
      • RX-7 (3rd Gen)
      • RX-7 Restomod (3rd Gen)
      • Skyactiv 3
      • Frankenmiata
      • Miatabusa
      • My Girlfriend’s Miata
      • Mitsubishi
      • EVO VIII
      • EVO IX
      • EVO X
      • CSF EVO X Racecar
      • Professional Awesome EVO VIII
    • Make N-P
      • Nissan
      • 200SX
      • 200SX SE-R
      • 240SX Land Speed Racer
      • 300ZXTT
      • 350Z
      • 350Z Drift Car
      • 370Z
      • GT-R (R33)
      • GT-R (R35)
      • GT-R (Team America BNR32)
      • LS S13
      • NX GTi-R
      • Pathfinder
      • S13 Drift/Grip Do-it-All Mega 240
      • Sentra SE-R
      • Sentra Spec V
      • Silvia
      • STurdteen Drift Car
      • Porsche
      • 991 GT3RS
      • Cayman (987)
      • Cayman T
      • Cayman GTS 4.0
    • Make S-Z
      • Scion
      • FR-S
      • Scion Tuner Challenge FR-S
      • TC
      • Subaru
      • Autocross BRZ
      • Legacy GT
      • STI (gen 2)
      • STI (gen 3)
      • WRX (GD)
      • WRX (VA)
      • Toyota
      • 4Runner
      • AE86 Corolla
      • GR Corolla
      • Starletabusa
      • Supra Mark IV
      • Tacoma
      • Tundra
      • Volkswagen
      • MKIV Jetta TDI
      • MKVI Golf TDI
      • MKVII Golf R
      • Sipster (Rabbit)
    • Other Projects
      • Powersports
      • Aprilia RS50
      • Aprilia SR50
      • Doodlebug
      • Ducati 998
      • Ducati Hypermotard
      • Honda Ruckus
      • Husqvarna TE610
      • Go Karts
      • Other
      • Sim Racer
      • Aurora Cobra
      • Garage
      • NP01 Prototype
  • Features
    • Features
      • Feature Cars
      • Drag Race Cars
      • Drift Cars
      • Land Speed Cars
      • Open-Wheel Cars
      • Rally Cars
      • Road Race Cars
      • Street Cars
      • Time Attack Cars
      • Drag Racing
    • Features
      • Events
      • Drifting
      • Land Speed Racing
      • Open-Wheel Racing
      • Time Attack Racing
      • Rally Racing
      • Road Racing
      • Car Shows
      • Columns
      • SlipAngle Podcast
  • Video
  • Shop *NEW*
  • MotoIQ Garage Services
  • About
  • Shop *NEW*
  • MotoIQ Garage Services
  • About
MotoIQ
MotoIQ
  • Tech
    • Tech Category
      • Engine
      • Bottom End
      • Rods and Pistons
      • Head and Headwork
      • Cams and Valvetrain
      • Cooling and Heat Management
      • Intake
      • Headers and Exhaust
      • Rotary
      • Engine Management and Tuning
      • Drivetrain
      • Transmission
      • Clutch and Flywheel
      • Differential and Final Drive
      • Driveshaft and Axle
      • Axles
    • Tech Category
      • Suspension
      • Shocks and Coilovers
      • Springs
      • Swaybars
      • Arms and Links
      • Bushings
      • Steering
      • Geometry Correction
      • Suspension Setup and Tuning
      • Brakes
      • Wheels and Tires
      • Fueling
      • Forced Induction and NOS
      • Aerodynamics
    • Tech Cat
      • Electrical
      • Battery and Power Distribution
      • Electronics
      • Wiring
      • Electrical System Education and Troubleshooting
      • Lubrication
      • Interior and Controls
      • Exterior
      • Paint and Bodywork
      • Wraps and Film Protection
      • Exterior Care and Maintenance
      • Data Acquisition and Tuning
      • Fabrication and Safety
      • Tips and How-To
  • Projects
    • Make A-D
      • Acura
      • Integra (DC2)
      • NSX
      • CSF RSX (DC5)
      • BMW
      • E30 (SR20 Powered)
      • E36 323is
      • E36 M3 (Black)
      • E36 M3 (Silver)
      • E39 M5
      • E46 M3
      • E90 M3
      • E46 Racecar
      • Yost Auto E92 M3
      • Yost Auto F82 M4
      • Chevrolet
      • Camaro Gen5
      • Corvette Stingray (C7 Z51)
      • Corvette Stingray (C8 Z51)
      • GMC Canyon
      • Dodge
      • Viper GTS
    • Make E-I
      • Ford
      • E350 Tow Rig
      • F150 EcoBoost
      • Fiesta ST
      • Focus ST
      • Mustang 5.0 (Grey)
      • Mustang 5.0 (White)
      • Mustang S197 (Budget Track Car)
      • Mustang S550 GT
      • Honda
      • Civic EF Racecar
      • Civic Si (Coupe)
      • Civic Si (EP3)
      • Civic Si (Saloon)
      • EJ Civic
      • Polystrand CRX
      • S2000 (AP1)
      • S2000 (AP2)
      • Infiniti
      • G20 Racecar
      • G20 (P10 AWD Turbo)
      • G35
      • G37S
    • Make J-M
      • Isuzu
      • Vehicross
      • Lexus
      • ISF
      • SC300
      • Mazda
      • V8 RX7 (3rd Gen)
      • RX-7 (3rd Gen)
      • RX-7 Restomod (3rd Gen)
      • Skyactiv 3
      • Frankenmiata
      • Miatabusa
      • My Girlfriend’s Miata
      • Mitsubishi
      • EVO VIII
      • EVO IX
      • EVO X
      • CSF EVO X Racecar
      • Professional Awesome EVO VIII
    • Make N-P
      • Nissan
      • 200SX
      • 200SX SE-R
      • 240SX Land Speed Racer
      • 300ZXTT
      • 350Z
      • 350Z Drift Car
      • 370Z
      • GT-R (R33)
      • GT-R (R35)
      • GT-R (Team America BNR32)
      • LS S13
      • NX GTi-R
      • Pathfinder
      • S13 Drift/Grip Do-it-All Mega 240
      • Sentra SE-R
      • Sentra Spec V
      • Silvia
      • STurdteen Drift Car
      • Porsche
      • 991 GT3RS
      • Cayman (987)
      • Cayman T
      • Cayman GTS 4.0
    • Make S-Z
      • Scion
      • FR-S
      • Scion Tuner Challenge FR-S
      • TC
      • Subaru
      • Autocross BRZ
      • Legacy GT
      • STI (gen 2)
      • STI (gen 3)
      • WRX (GD)
      • WRX (VA)
      • Toyota
      • 4Runner
      • AE86 Corolla
      • GR Corolla
      • Starletabusa
      • Supra Mark IV
      • Tacoma
      • Tundra
      • Volkswagen
      • MKIV Jetta TDI
      • MKVI Golf TDI
      • MKVII Golf R
      • Sipster (Rabbit)
    • Other Projects
      • Powersports
      • Aprilia RS50
      • Aprilia SR50
      • Doodlebug
      • Ducati 998
      • Ducati Hypermotard
      • Honda Ruckus
      • Husqvarna TE610
      • Go Karts
      • Other
      • Sim Racer
      • Aurora Cobra
      • Garage
      • NP01 Prototype
  • Features
    • Features
      • Feature Cars
      • Drag Race Cars
      • Drift Cars
      • Land Speed Cars
      • Open-Wheel Cars
      • Rally Cars
      • Road Race Cars
      • Street Cars
      • Time Attack Cars
      • Drag Racing
    • Features
      • Events
      • Drifting
      • Land Speed Racing
      • Open-Wheel Racing
      • Time Attack Racing
      • Rally Racing
      • Road Racing
      • Car Shows
      • Columns
      • SlipAngle Podcast
  • Video
  • Tech

Turbo Tech: Generating Compressor and Turbine Maps

  • Khiem Dinh

,

Well, you don’t and therefore bundle their inefficiencies together into one value on the turbine map.  So by changing the bearing system in a turbocharger, you change the efficiency values on the turbine map.  What do these turbine efficiency values look like?  Unfortunately, none of the turbo manufacturers make them publicly available from what I can find.  Another very important value not shown on the turbine map is pressure ratio for a given speed line and flow rate.  Turbine pressure ratio and efficiency are both dependent on the compressor wheel attached on the other end along with the turbine housing (A/R and volute shape design being variables).  Why don’t the manufacturers show this data?  Probably because for each turbine wheel, the turbo manufacturers would have to make a map for every combination of compressor wheel, turbine housing, and bearing system out there.  For example, the standard Garrett GT30, 60mm turbine wheel can be paired with four different compressor wheels (GT3071/GT3076/GTX3071/GTX3076) and a LOT of turbine housings (T3 flanged, T4 flanged, divided, all in different A/Rs).  That’s over thirty turbine maps right there for one turbine wheel.

While the general public does not get to see the details of a turbine map, those details are critical for proper turbocharger matching for OEM applications.  The major challenge in determining turbine efficiency is accuracy of measurements of the exhaust.  The properties of the exhaust gas must be very accurately measured before and after the turbine wheel.  By measuring the properties of the exhaust, we can determine the value for its internal energy.  Knowing the values of internal energy pre and post turbine along with the mass flow rate allows us to determine how much power went into the turbine wheel.

 

Here is another way to look at the power flow through a turbo.  We have exhaust flow going into the turbine with an energy state of E1.  The turbine extracts energy, E3, out of the exhaust flow; the energy the turbine can’t extract from the exhaust flow leaves the turbine at state E2.  The more efficient a turbine, E3 becomes larger and E2 becomes smaller.  Conversely, the less efficient the turbine, E3 is lower and E2 is higher.  Not all of E3 makes it to the compressor as some energy is lost due to friction in the bearing system, E4.  E5 is the end result going into the compressor after taking into account bearing losses and turbine inefficiency.  E7 consists of actual compressor work and compressor inefficiency.  The more efficient the compressor operates, the higher the pressure ratio and/or mass flow rate.  Compressor inefficiency generates heat (do not want) increasing the temperature instead of increasing the pressure or mass flow rate (do want).  On a gas stand, we can measure properties at E1, E2, E6 and E7 allowing us to calculate E5.  Knowing E5 gives us a secondary method to verify overall turbine efficiency (turbine efficiency bundled with the bearing power loss as we have no easy way to separate the two).

 

So now we know some of the parameters we need to measure, but how do we measure them?  Also, how accurate do we need to be in the measurements?  This is where we need to do a little sensitivity analysis and an error stack-up.  Sensitivity deals with how much the result changes based on one parameter changing.  For example, here is an equation: Y = A * B^3.  If A = 1 and B = 1, then Y = 1.  If A = 2 and B = 1, then Y = 2.  However, if A = 1 and B = 2, then Y = 8!    So as you can see, for the same change in B, the end result drastically changes as compared to the same change in A.

When running any type of test where measurements are taken, there’s always a margin of error.  Electronic transducers are commonly used to measure pressures and temperatures and they come in different levels of accuracy.  They also have a limited range of temperatures in which they will work correctly.  As you can probably guess, the higher the accuracy and temperature capability of the transducers, the more they cost.  The accuracy is most often given as a percentage of the full scale of the transducer.  For example, you can get pressure transducers with an operating range of 0-20 PSIA (pounds per square inch absolute pressure, as opposed to gage pressure) or 0-100 PSIA.  A very high accuracy transducer may have an accuracy of +/- 0.05% of full-scale whereas a less accurate transducer may be +/- 0.25% of full-scale.  For the 0-20 PSIA transducers with an accuracy of +/- 0.05%, that translates into +/- 0.01 PSI.  The 0-100 PSIA transducer with the same +/- 0.05% has an accuracy of +/- 0.05 PSI.

 

This chart shows the effects of various levels of error in the measurements for calculating compressor efficiency.  I assumed worst case where the directions of error for each measurement create the greatest amount of error in the final calculation.  Taking into account only temperature error, a transducer with +/- 1K accuracy means our final efficiency calculation could be off by a full two percentage points!  If you tell an engineer their compressor efficiency is 75%, +/- 2%, that is not very good; 73% is hugely different than 77%.  Aero engineers tend to stress about tenths of a percent and fight for any 1% efficiency gain they can get.  So obviously, this level of accuracy is not good enough.  I repeated the same process for calculating the magnitude of pressure reading error on the final efficiency value while keeping the temperature error equal to zero.  Finally, I combined both errors together to see the effect on the final efficiency calculation.  A temperature error of +/- 0.1K combined with a pressure error of +/- 0.001 bar creates a final error of 0.39% points which I think is reasonable.  Looking at compressor maps, the efficiencies are only given as integers, so +/- 0.39% would probably accurate enough.

 

Related

Previous page 1 2 3 4Next page
Related Topics
  • Forced Induction and NOS
Previous Article
  • Features

MotoIQ Radio Episode 21: Gialamas Technical Innovations and Vibrant Performance

  • WillCanady
View Post
Next Article
  • Features

PFC RH665 Racer Brake Fluid Special

  • Jeff Naeyaert
View Post
2 comments
  1. Alexios Matamis says:
    December 10, 2025 at 11:59 pm

    Really nice article for someone to start understanding efficiencies! The turbine side is not too hard to measure the pressure, but you do need to consider the flow conditions and take the average pressure measurement from a few points around the exhaust pipe and not a single one. The bigger problem with the turbine side is that you need to consider heat losses as the delta T to the environment is much larger compared to the compressor side and heat losses will glorify the turbines performance.

    Reply
    1. Avatar photo Mike Kojima says:
      December 24, 2025 at 11:49 am

      Pre turbine pressure is the only relevant one. A few locations around the exhaust manifold is not useful

      Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Input your search keywords and press Enter.