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Project S2000: Part 19 – Ram Air!!! Plus Hot Air Testing!

  • Khiem Dinh

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A new little modification I have added is more foam strips which were leftovers from my prior radiator sealing efforts to seal off the gap between the hood and the chassis. This should force more air through the radiator and more air towards the snorkel of the air box when the stock hood is in place.
In the stock configuration, the air feeding the air box comes from this little slot. The air enters the front of the car through the main bumper opening, makes a 90 degree turn up, and then another arching 90 degree turn towards the snorkel. 

To the test the car in the stock configuration, I removed the duct and taped over the hole. I went out and did three laps, came in and quickly installed the duct, and was back out on the track within five minutes. I did this to ensure the conditions were as identical as possible.

The maximum speed I hit on the straight was 130mph before I wussed out and slowed down to 115mph for Turn 2. I compared the data from the top of fifth gear however which is around 125mph. Some interesting stuff showed up along with some unanticipated improvements.

Here I have plotted intake manifold pressure and engine speed with and without the duct at the top of fifth gear. I had the datalogger in the Hondadata KPro set at 5hz which is relatively slow as I’ve had it set at 25hz before. However, it was still able to pick up an interesting phenomenon I hadn’t thought about before. The plot starts right after the shift from fourth to fifth was completed. So right after the throttle plate had slammed shut and gone back to being fully open. Remember, air can act as a spring and it was doing some funky springy action due to the throttle plate closing and reopening. So in both cases, the air inside the intake manifold appears to spring/oscillate about four times before it dampens out after two seconds. Anyway, back to the main purpose of the testing which was to see if the duct was able to create a ram air effect. As you can clearly see, the duct did measurably increase the intake manifold pressure.

At 7000rpm and 110mph, the difference is about 750Pa. As the engine and vehicle speed increased to almost 8000rpm and 125mph, the increase in pressure was about 1000Pa (give or take). Looking back at the graph of stagnation pressure vs. speed, 110mph should have gotten us about 1500Pa and 125mph should have generated about 2000Pa. So I’m getting a gain that’s about half of of the maximum predicted, but that’s with no attempts at all of sealing the air box more than the way it left the factory. My guess is the major leak point is where the two halves of the air box close around the intake tube. Maybe I’ll lay a bead of RTV around there to try to seal the box better.

To illustrate how speed is required to build up the stagnation pressure, here’s data from third gear topping out around 75mph. The pressure with the duct does look a smidge higher, but it’s not significant enough to show up clearly.

A slightly unanticipated benefit to my ram air duct was a decrease in intake manifold temperature. I figured since I was grabbing the air from a higher location, it would maybe be a bit cooler than the air coming in the main bumper opening closer to the track surface.

I got a solid 7-8 deg C, or about 13-14 deg F reduction in intake manifold temperature. That’s a lot! So why was the intake air so much cooler? I can tell you it wasn’t due to testing procedure as I had the engine idling and heat soaking while I installed the duct in the middle of the session. So if anything, the engine would have been heat soaked hotter. Looking back at a picture of the engine bay, notice the standard airflow path requires the air to go over the top of the radiator before getting to the snorkel of the air box. The radiator is only about two inches wide, but apparently it’s enough to heat up the air significantly. Keep in mind the coolant is about a hundred degrees Fahrenheit hotter than the ambient air, if not more. Heat transfer is driven by temperature differential and that’s a big temperature differential. Plus, with the coolant sitting at 190F, that’s really hot says my hand as I had dropped my ratchet during the duct install. It landed on top of my oil cooler situated against the radiator and I had to reach down and get it. Hot.. ouch! Hot hot ouch! See the sacrifices we make for the purpose of testing?

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7 comments
  1. CHRISTOPHER M JIMENEZ says:
    September 26, 2019 at 1:03 pm

    Hey Moto IQ , first thing you guys are the one of the best at building track cars and I love all of your upcoming projects. Im in need a a NACA vent for my 2011 BMW 335i and this vent looks perfect. By any chance can you guys get another one made and I will pay before its even made, really need this vent.

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    1. CHRISTOPHER M JIMENEZ says:
      September 26, 2019 at 1:04 pm

      guys are one of***

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    2. Khiem Dinh says:
      September 26, 2019 at 8:17 pm

      Appreciate the comment! This NACA duct was designed specifically for the S2000 hood shape and airbox location. For your needs, you can probably go with something generic? Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies has some NACA ducts that could work.

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  2. James Lee says:
    May 28, 2020 at 2:23 am

    Would the NACA duct have water issue when it rains? I’m also looking for a brake duct kit for an AP2 that comes with the dust shields already with the hole for easier installation. WASP Composite seems to be the only one that made such a kit with the hole directed towards the center of the rotor as it should be. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like they sell the kit anymore. Any ideas/recommendations? Many thanks!

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    1. Khiem Dinh says:
      May 29, 2020 at 8:36 pm

      Personally, I wouldn’t use the NACA duct in the rain. I’m not sure the stock airbox has any water drainage provision. It’s easy to swap hoods, so I only put on the track hood for the track.

      As for brakes, if you track, I’m a huge proponent of going straight to the StopTech BBK. Of course, that means you need new wheels to clear the brakes. If you want to keep the stock brakes, you could just remove the dust shields. I haven’t had the dust shields o the S2k in ages and I went around 100k miles on my old Nissan without dust shields. You will need to figure out a way to mount the end of the hose. I just zip-tied it before.
      https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-part-4-taking-it-to-the-track/3/

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  3. Jonathan says:
    December 24, 2021 at 9:08 am

    Are you selling these?

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    1. Khiem Dinh says:
      December 28, 2021 at 10:46 am

      No, I only made the one. If you decide to go this route, you should also stick a one-way check valve in the air hose going from the intake to the front breather on the valve cover. I was losing ram air boost through this flow path. I regained the lost boost after plugging it in later testing. A one-way valve is a more elegant solution.

      https://motoiq.com/project-s2000-part-22-testing-new-goods-and-more-intake-mods/2/

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