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Testing the CSF BMW S58 G8X Intake Manifold

  • Mike Kojima

This bracket retains the OEM wire harness using the OEM clips for a perfect fit.

This fitting is for the OEM PCV system.

It can be blocked off for racing use if so desired.  There is another location for different models and the fittings can be used for aftermarket blow-off valves if so desired.

The CSF manifold is not only entirely functional and easy to install, but it is also a beautiful bit of eye candy for the engine compartment.

The manifold was designed, rendered, 3D printed, and test fitted before any metal was cut.  This technology greatly speeds up prototyping time and eliminates areas for error to creep into a design.

Extensive use of computational fluid dynamics simulation or CFD was used to design the core and the manifold flow paths.

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11 comments
  1. twist says:
    April 24, 2023 at 4:15 am

    Holy 7000USD, those are some impressive gains.

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  2. Spec R says:
    April 24, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    so 1000hp in my subaru would be like $100k USD and it still would get smoked by this. hahahah

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  3. Dan DeRosia says:
    April 25, 2023 at 6:38 am

    That’s an impressive piece and holy hell that can be done with modern cars as far as power outputs. One thing I do wonder though is… every time I see CFD of manifolds published it’s always as if the manifold is sitting loose – throttle body flowing to every port at once. I’m not sure it’d make a difference, and it’d be more setup work, but intuitively it seems like seeing if flow is equal with only one cylinder at a time fully open would be more realistic. Has experience showed that it doesn’t matter, and or is this just kind of a “beauty shot” as a subset of a lot of different test cases? Because obviously it works, I’m just curious as to the thought process.

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    1. Khiem Dinh says:
      April 26, 2023 at 10:42 pm

      Good question. The way I figure, it’s all an approximation one way or another. When I did the exhaust manifold for my S2000, I did do one cylinder at a time. Either way, I don’t think basic CFD captures pulsation effects. It’s been 8-10 years since I used GT-Power, but they had added functionality at the time where you could import the 3d CAD and it’d create system model in GT-Power for you. The stuff you can analyze in GT-Power is amazing.

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      1. Dan DeRosia says:
        April 27, 2023 at 8:48 am

        I wonder too if just, every port open at once might be a worse case scenario anyway for distribution, maybe show some choke points that in practice don’t matter as much as they do in reality.

        Wish there was a realistic way for me to mess with GT-Power or one of the other 1d sims even at a more basic level. Too many areas of car stuff for one person to mess with in one lifetime.

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        1. Avatar photo Mike Kojima says:
          April 27, 2023 at 10:57 am

          Ricardo Wave?

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          1. Dan DeRosia says:
            May 2, 2023 at 10:54 am

            I should shoot them and email and at least see how many zeroes of dollars a seat would be; the GEMS GDA software was well within my means, for example, and I’ve had a few other instances of being surprised. As long as I’m over-ambitious and in over my head, why not shoot for the moon, right?

  4. Mook Genius says:
    April 25, 2023 at 8:50 am

    The B58 and the S58 are not the same engine. Toyota has never received any version of a S58 engine ever for the A90 or A91 Supra. Hope this helps.

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    1. Avatar photo Mike Kojima says:
      April 25, 2023 at 9:26 am

      They are in the same engine family.

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      1. William Thomas says:
        April 30, 2023 at 2:40 pm

        You need to amend your sentence where you say the s58 is the bmw variant of the b58. Lol. They were both designed by bmw, the b58 released in 2015 long before there was a mk5 supra. Toyota is a customer of bmw for supra parts/chassis. They did lots of testing beforehand but the b58 is not their engine, never has been.

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        1. Avatar photo Mike Kojima says:
          April 30, 2023 at 9:14 pm

          They are pretty close to being the same engine. They are the same engine family. Just stuff like stronger pistons, higher pressure injectors, and twin turbos but most of the engine is the same and I bet parts interchange.

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