Project FR-S: Getting More Grip with Whiteline, Cusco, Rays Wheels and Achilles 123S Tires!

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For tires we selected the controversial Achilles 123S tire.  In the world of drifting these tires have the rep for unmatched grip and there is buzz going on that these are super soft tires. Is it true? We selected a set of 123s in 265/35-18 for the rear and a set of prototype 235/40-18 in the front.  The 235/40-18 will be available soon.  We had a slight rub on our rear fender lip and we had to grind it down slightly and bend the inner plastic fender liner but we were able to get rid of the rub without drastic fender rolling.

The 123S has an aggressive tread design with large blocks on the outsides for better side grip and large twin center grooves with a sold center rib for water evacuation and straight line stability.  The sidewalls have a raised rim protector which helps protect your wheel, especially if you have a stretched fitment.  The 123S has reinforced shoulders to help keep the tread flat under cornering loads and a rounded edge profile to make the tire more predictable under break away.  We noted that the 123S has a pretty thick tread with deep grooves, possibly to allow for more wear in drifting applications.

The changes we have made to our car’s chassis so far are pretty amazing.  With the Whiteline sway bars, our car corners much better, flatter and with much less overshoot.  Our FR-S now has faster response to steering input, way less understeer and way less sudden oversteer.  The car is much easier to slide predictably now and you can get on the throttle a lot sooner during corner exit.

It is very interesting to note that even though we have installed Whiteline bushings in our transmission mount and subframe mounts, there is no perceptible gain in vibration or noise due to the bushings.  Our shifting is more positive and we feel that the subframe bushings are a big contributor to the improved predictability that our car has while cornering.

The Cusco braces make a pretty large difference in the chassis stiffness, most of which manifested itself in improved ride comfort.  We were surprised the the decently stiff FR-S/BR-Z chassis would respond to additional bracing in such a feelable way.  Even though our car is a lot stiffer and more responsive, the amazing thing is that it rides smoother than the stock car did.

With the bigger Achilles 123S tires, we had a lot of grip.  We think that the car doesn’t like stagger fitment because staggering the tire widths made the car pick up some understeer, especially in slower turns.  We didn’t attempt to tune the understeer out of the car with chassis adjustment and instead we will go to a square setup later.

The 123S tires have tons of grip and are very predictable, perhaps they may be a consideration for ST class autocross and street class time attack in addition to drifting.  The one thing we didn’t like about the tires is that the thick tread with deep grooves had a lot of tread squirm which made the tire feel imprecise and lazy as if it was running a lot of slip angle.

We believe that this can be cured by shaving the tires and this would make the 123S a super fast track and autocross tire.  It has the grip, this should give it the feel.  We think the 123S might just give the current grip king the Hankook RS3, a run for its money.

Another note is that these were early production tires and we heard that later tires will have a thinner tread to reduce the squirm.

Our chassis mods have complemented the big boost in power that our supercharger has given.  We still have way more chassis and brakes than engine! Stay tuned, we have more suspension magic and more power mods coming soon!

 

Sources

Whiteline Suspension

Cusco USA

Mackin Industries

Achilles Tires

Innovate Motorsports

Koyo Cooling Systems

K&N Filters

Motul

KW Suspension

Race Comp Engineering

Nameless Performance

Greddy

Berk Technology

Technosquare

Norwalk Toyota/Scion

Scion

 

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2 comments

  1. I’m curious to hear your logic for going with the 18″ wheels instead of 17″. The 18’s definitely look better but I know looks alone aren’t enough for MotoIQ.

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